tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post1593044025145314859..comments2024-01-14T00:48:22.175-08:00Comments on BAALS-2-the-WAALS: 40k Editorial: "Oh how rich we are" (In defense of small pointed games)Kevinmcd28http://www.blogger.com/profile/06915604908609700895noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-4550650464096964812012-04-25T22:34:02.778-07:002012-04-25T22:34:02.778-07:00Honestly I like the 400-1,000 point range. I know ...Honestly I like the 400-1,000 point range. I know a lot of people couldn't stand that low of a battle size (especially dipping into the 400 range, but it lets you try new armies for cheaper if you can't borrow the army in question or don't like substituting). But even down to 500 points I can field Compulsory plus an Elite, Fast, and Heavy as a Tau. And if you can't, you can find substitutions that work (i.e. IG Heavy Weapons Teams make great low point improvs for Heavies. Besides, first battle I played was 1,000 points, but even then it was overwhelming, new players (IMO) should start with Compulsory and maybe one other type of unit (I sure wish I did). And and CJ has some truth to the spammers having the advantage against more "elite" factions - I play Tau and I've play against Trynaids and the win/lose ratio for me is 3 wins to 5 losses and a tie as of recent. Besides, small armies are "cozy," everything pulls it's weight, every choice is important (obviously I'm still working out the tactics, but still, you play to have fun, not to win).Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05080109224605277056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-80776885186703920322010-09-03T11:55:59.712-07:002010-09-03T11:55:59.712-07:00Totally agree with you on this. I love the 750-10...Totally agree with you on this. I love the 750-1000 point range and being a father trying to introduce 40k to his kids, this range is just easier for them to understand the overall concept and focus on rules and basic tactics.BJC Mini Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04400134817105559834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-63356288814551202922010-08-27T04:38:21.540-07:002010-08-27T04:38:21.540-07:00Around here in Eruope we usually play at the 1700 ...Around here in Eruope we usually play at the 1700 points lvl and It's a pretty good number. I wouldn't mind dropping down to 1500 like the UK standard though. I've seen that 1K games can be very entertaining And still feel like a true game instead of the slugfest we usually end up with at 2K +. Specially the weaker armies won't stand against the Shooting might of IG or the Spamms of the newer codex's as well when those hit Critical mass and can just blast stuff on the table when it comes on. Butt I don't think smaller point would ruin the game so you can't take 2 units of thunderwolfes or no 2 trygons that doesn't mean you can't win. And if it does you really need to up your gameplan because obviously it's lacking somewhere.CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10684949522759606374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-81977312677335216822010-08-25T07:32:53.610-07:002010-08-25T07:32:53.610-07:00Yeah I have a post on 1750 im posting right now as...Yeah I have a post on 1750 im posting right now as wellKevinmcd28https://www.blogger.com/profile/06915604908609700895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-14545927597910816552010-08-24T17:02:39.918-07:002010-08-24T17:02:39.918-07:00I believe that samll games can be fun...There shou...I believe that samll games can be fun...There shouldn't be a battle over wich is better. However I believe that most armies are ballanced at about 1750 or so....Some armies are incredibly good at low point numbers. Such as IG, DE, Orks etc....while more elite armies like Daemons and/or Marines take a major hit with low point games. So keep in mind that some armies have an advantage in low point games. Same goes for large point games....some armies will have the advantage there as well. This is why for tournies I like 1750....it's almost perfect....almost.. But I do like the idea of a low points tournie every so often...maybe a 'young bloods' tournie. It could be fun for those without the cash to make up larger forces.Melon Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16557578215592278274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-69817663036909011902010-08-24T07:09:30.029-07:002010-08-24T07:09:30.029-07:00Playing 2000 plus on a 6-4 table is about the most...Playing 2000 plus on a 6-4 table is about the most boring game i can think of. You have no room to maneuver and it just turns into a slug fest. <br />1250 games have an elegant quality to them as you have to first pick a balanced force, then maneuver around all that space you have.<br />And you can still have your toys. My buddy can still take a Valkyrie and tanks in his 1250 IG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-54055549713398869242010-08-24T06:30:15.894-07:002010-08-24T06:30:15.894-07:00Let's not get into the false dichotomy of fun/...Let's not get into the false dichotomy of fun/winning, they are not mutually exclusive. Player skill > lists, so don't whine about a mech IG army, just play better.<br /><br />I prefer big games because they allow people to fit in more fun stuff and 1 bad turn doesn't screw you.<br /><br />In smaller games, you have to take the essentials and don't have room for much else. With fewer minis on the board, one set of bad rolling can cripple you, while a 500 point cushion can absorb it and leave you in the running.<br /><br />Small games are great for learning the game or just playing quickies, but since you can't field a good chunk of the units in your Codex, it leaves something to be desired compared to larger games. That sweet spot being 1750-2000, 2500 is just too unwieldy.Chumbalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543857960730597490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-86869794816530090912010-08-24T00:38:26.051-07:002010-08-24T00:38:26.051-07:00Also, my HTML is made of fail.Also, my HTML is made of fail.Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12583821960347555993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-78252359011079010822010-08-24T00:37:47.455-07:002010-08-24T00:37:47.455-07:00Response ran too long for comments, so I turned it...Response ran too long for comments, so I turned it into an entry: <a rel="nofollow">http://von-gameover.blogspot.com/2010/08/house-of-paincakes-is-small-beautiful.html</a><br /><br />Short version: Different size games need/test/build different skill sets, and I'm not going to say one is better: I've had good and bad experiences with both and I loathe false binary oppositions.Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12583821960347555993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-81160012229494432272010-08-24T00:36:26.389-07:002010-08-24T00:36:26.389-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12583821960347555993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-1539304441801010832010-08-23T19:46:47.066-07:002010-08-23T19:46:47.066-07:00It does take more skill to play lower point games....It does take more skill to play lower point games. Your unit choices matter more. Your loadouts and tactics matter more. Because you have so much less to lose you will tend to pay more attention to the game and since smaller games go faster you can play more overall.Brother Vizlanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652763954540262916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-68346203282432450892010-08-23T18:25:47.211-07:002010-08-23T18:25:47.211-07:00I think a part of the reason for people sticking t...I think a part of the reason for people sticking to larger point games is the ability to take all the toys from their codex. It's really easy to make a list at 2500 points, since it requires very little thought to fit in everything you want. And it's fun to see a big army on the table for you to command.<br /><br />The guy you mentioned sounds like a real loser though.<br /><br />I have not played a game below 1500 since learning how to play, but I think I'll give it a go next time!Sigismundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741131805524691632noreply@blogger.com