tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post8828432450815152832..comments2024-01-14T00:48:22.175-08:00Comments on BAALS-2-the-WAALS: Feel No Pain Debate: Are Dark Eldar Screwed?Kevinmcd28http://www.blogger.com/profile/06915604908609700895noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-19150545655064306292010-10-22T07:14:38.954-07:002010-10-22T07:14:38.954-07:00The fact that there was any confusion on this in t...The fact that there was any confusion on this in the first place makes me want to bite a chunk out of my monitor......<br /><br />*crunch tinkle , Fzzzzt , THUD, twitch jerk twitch twitchSorrowshardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14685765304265071914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-69690727236651121792010-10-21T15:51:47.396-07:002010-10-21T15:51:47.396-07:00How can people misunderstand "never be taken&...How can people misunderstand "never be taken" into "sometimes can never be taken"? It continues to weird me out.<br /><br />And, as several people noted already, FNP works just fine for Orks, Tyranids, and Plaguebearers- and the latter don't even HAVE an armor save, so by the alternate interpretation one would have to assume that the rule would simply not function for them.AbusePuppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07413248837734103198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-4943959324458422572010-10-21T13:54:34.759-07:002010-10-21T13:54:34.759-07:00If FnP was worked out based on the AP ignoring YOU...If FnP was worked out based on the AP ignoring YOUR armour, then Orks would never be able to use FnP against weapons we take for granted as allowing FnP. Think of the poor Orks! :pIggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18356074943070457221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-61471239515790265212010-10-21T11:53:01.361-07:002010-10-21T11:53:01.361-07:00Ill change the bad example guys thanksIll change the bad example guys thanksKevinmcd28https://www.blogger.com/profile/06915604908609700895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-50179262377307740772010-10-21T11:47:48.478-07:002010-10-21T11:47:48.478-07:00There is no need for a FAQ as the rule as written ...There is no need for a FAQ as the rule as written is clear. The Biker would not get a FNP from a Krak missile since it is double his base tougness, but could get a FNP from a Strength 7, AP 3 weapon.Purgatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04434824912752472018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-8583957460562334302010-10-21T11:38:31.308-07:002010-10-21T11:38:31.308-07:00The example with a space marine biker would still ...The example with a space marine biker would still be instant killed by the battle cannon, as instant death is worked out against base toughness. The bikers +1 makes him harder to wound for small weapons, but just as susceptible to battle cannon fire.Gingehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04155099423475435032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-48389851491259651432010-10-21T11:30:33.714-07:002010-10-21T11:30:33.714-07:00@Matt I ment for the example to be a space marine ...@Matt I ment for the example to be a space marine biker, I left out the bike part. thanks for the fixKevinmcd28https://www.blogger.com/profile/06915604908609700895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-20321504593068398202010-10-21T11:15:25.811-07:002010-10-21T11:15:25.811-07:00Yeah, your friends are wrong. FNP only doesn't...Yeah, your friends are wrong. FNP only doesn't work against AP1,2 and works fine against AP3,4,5,6 even if it beats the armor save. <br /><br />Now the fact that eldar are t3 and suffer instant death on S6 weapons does matter and makes FNP not as great as if it were on a marine...so autocannons are going to ignore it.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11680110160882762433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6515454463270943871.post-81754429836674773412010-10-21T11:01:03.526-07:002010-10-21T11:01:03.526-07:00Yes they get FNP check your quote again:
"any...Yes they get FNP check your quote again:<br />"any other wound against which no armor saves can ever be taken (like wounds from power fists, dreadnought close combat weapons, rending weapons that roll a 6, Perils of the Warp, failed dangerous terrain tests, etc)"<br /><br />First it says "ever be taken" if you have a 2+ save against an ap3 weapon do you get a save? Of course. Look at the examples they give all are things that never allow a save.<br />BTW your example for the marines is bogus since the str 8 (x2T) of the battlecannon would negate the FnP.<br />Look at it this way does an Ork Warboss get if from the BC, yes, because it is not x2 his T.Matt Hoellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720058911348791433noreply@blogger.com