So I will start at the start of the army list
Flamers of Tzeentch
Ok so not much changed for Flamers EXCEPT they got a whole hell of a lot cheaper and better. They dropped from 35 points a model to 23.....that is a huge drop for one of the best anti-horde units/anti-terminator units in the game. They are jump infantry with a stat line of WS 2 BS 4 S4 T4 2 wounds (awesome!), 2 attacks at I4, and a 5++ save They can use two different shooting attacks. One is a 4+ to wound no armor or cover saves allowed shot and another is a typical shooting attack but who cares. These guys can merc terminators easy. For 69 points they make an excellent suicide deep strike squad to drop three 4+ to wound no save templates on the likes of hordes and terminators. For 143 points you get a unit of 6 with a pyrocaster champion. Being jump infantry hiding these guys inside of a castle and jumping them out to flame incoming assault units, after a conservative deep strike nearby. You use to get the same unit for over 210 points. An excellent choice and a great ally to add in with other daemon allies. Although I will state they can no longer take a bolt of tzeentch...
Screamers of Tzeentch
Now to the old "flying melta bombs" for the daemons codex....and no longer the flying melta bombs....these guys got a hit at being increased from 48 points to 75 points for three models. Instead of being a melta bomb instead they have S5 Ap2 armourbane close combat attack except they make as many attacks as they can which is four on the charge...so they are not bad at killing vehicles and will still probably kill a land raider. They cannot take unholy might but they can make d3 S4 ap- pass over attacks if they go over a unit per model which is nice and starting to manifest more and more in codices. Since they are still jetbikes as well. They also now have 2 wounds per model which is nice. They do have jink since they are jetbikes which is good. They did get a boost but are more expensive....
Hellflayers of Slaanesh
So a new daemon chariot with two hullpoints and AV11/11/10, It has D6 S4 AP- hammer of wrath attacks with rending which is also nice and gets that many extra attacks for every unsaved hammer of wrath wound. Overall not a very good choice in the codex as it is flimsy but with 4 attacks base on the rider w/ rending claws is can hit hard if it gets a good amount of hammer of wrath wounds at I6. 60 points is not that bad but it does compete with other better FA choices like screamers.
Seeker Calvacade
Ok so 1-3 chariots made up of any combo of exalted chariots and seeker chariots. Seeker chariots are the exact same thing as a hellflayer chariot but for only 40 points.the nice thing about an exalted seeker chariot is it is basically the same thing as a hellflayer but is a lot more expensive. They both can be mounted by heralds which is fairly cool except the exalted chariot is a TON more expensive at 170 points to be a mount while the normal seeker chariot is only 70 (ummm....who wrote the points for that?)
Anyway overall a nice boost to daemons. Flamers and seekers got a lot better and I expect to see Flamers a hell of a lot more.....multiple 6x units seem almost mandatory in every army from my point of view with the third slot being fiends.....but that is what I would play....especially since points will still not be spent on the nerfed blood crushers.....more on this later.
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Nice, but a few things... Flamers are now 5++. The mini update has them at save - with the new brb rules for daemons thats a 5++, it must be specified to get a diffrent save. But with the points drop extra woumd and extra attack it's still awsome. The new chariots all get the fleshrend rule witch is d6 hammer of wrath for every hull pint left on the vehicle. These are making their way into my army very soon. But overall a very nice synopsis...and plug for me...lol
ReplyDeleteSomething else to point out is the Flamers will auto-glance on a 4+. Dropping some of them amongst a car-park can do many hull points!
ReplyDeleteIt also seems to me that in 6th the Screamers can drop in then turbo-boost on the turn they drop, kicking their save up to 4+ and quite possibly killing off some enemy infantry: 6 of them dishes out a lot of damage with the fly-over attacks!
@.Ordo bob. at first I didn't think you could do this. Then I remembered this is 6th and looked up the relevant rules. Good find! I did not notice that little bit with the screamers. I will be stealing this one. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI've run three games with the new screamers now and am overwelmed with how much fun they are. One game (I had one unit of 6) they destroyed a predator, a vindicator, an ironclad dreadnought, 2 rhinos, and a combat squad of marines; second game (I had 2 units of 6) they killed a unit of assault marines, helped a daemon prince kill 10 death company, and captured 2 late-game objectives (the Scouring mission); in the last game I dropped a bit aggressively and lost a unit to the warp, but the other has finished off a Trygon wounded by shooting and helped a daemon prince wipe a large unit of Raveners.
ReplyDeleteI'm really liking this change, and am pretty pleased with their change in Fantasy too (if anyone here actually plays fantasy...)
Have not yet tried them with their new rules but will on my next game, maybe tomorrow if I dont work. Trying the sky shield too in my list, so far it's handy.
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